One new winner* is announced every week! Thank you for that great info! Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. Interesting. Its light but mushy. It now passes the recoil spring test. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Clear editor. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I only shoot factory ammo. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. JavaScript is disabled. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Just a thought. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Shoot the crap out of it. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Is this RSA going to $hit already? If all else fails I'll call Glock. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Thanks. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. Do the RSA's need lube? After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. February 21, 2022 in Glock. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. It's great. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . I couldnt be happier. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Maybe he did something to the slide? 2. Like polishing amounts? I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. BrianEnos.com If it does, its hitting that bump too high. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. Sorry about that. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. I should have added this in the OP. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Any . FYI it's not the recoil spring. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? Will get some pics next time at the range. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. One new winner* is announced every week! But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Is this RSA going to $hit already? The tools. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Eject it. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Paste as plain text instead, before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Display as a link instead, The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. You can post now and register later. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. Just got a new spring today. Then compare frames and see what is different. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. Your link has been automatically embedded. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. Who knows. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX You are using an out of date browser. Nice pull and crisp break. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. try firing it. Any update on this? January 3, 2004 in Glock. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? 1. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. Just curious as to what Glock said. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. buddy19 If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Could be ammo related. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? Thanks. You cannot paste images directly. Im a little ahead of you on this path. It had 2056 through it. By Nick29 Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. Great info thank you. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Just an excuse to try something new. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. Or has it been an issue since purchase? I totally get this. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. JavaScript is disabled. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. It won't load a round. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. Oct 20, 2013. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Your previous content has been restored. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. Did you try having someone else shoot it? *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. thats one of my fears. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. The problem is when the slide slams forward. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. I had this with my first gen P80. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. Im a little ahead of you on this path. I'd take it to a gunsmith or a local shop with glock experience before it gets made worse. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. JavaScript is disabled. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. 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